Lets consider the (average) approach shot distance that the AMA will have on an average par 4. Your email address will not be published. [/quote] I'll pass. That tells Tiger Woods Trackman numbers, I thought they were posted on here at one time from an event. Oddly, I bet you find that you do NOT score significantly better than your handicap even though the distances are short. Also, the dispersion for misses will be much wider for the AMA than the professional. With a collection of prestigious wins, including the 2017 FedExCup, 2017 PGA Championship, 2021 PLAYERS and 2022 PGA Championship, Justin Thomas is known to many as a celebrated professional on the PGA TOUR. Length is nothing. Dont be that person, as how your club interacts with the turf is more vital in wedges than with any other club. What Determines Driver Distance? 5 0 obj Hi I have always had an out to in swing until recent. G.O.A.T.? Trap draw? That's not Justin, that's Johnny. Based on the Trackman, the fitter's recommendation was a 910 D3, 7.5 loft, and a Graphite Design Tour AD DI 8X. WebThis is Justin Thomas TrackMan Numbers How does yours Compare? Titleist Vokey SM9 Wedge Review - Golfalot Thanks for the post. Odyssey Metal X Milled #1. In my experiences wedges can be the least searched review on YouTube and some of the worst fitting processes. Yet I hit my driver 230 yards to what they say is average, 214. Before when I opened the club face I presented too much leading edge, but due to the high bounce and shape with the M grind this doesnt happen. That's what I think. I bet your average golfer on your average course doesnt hit more than 160-175. Its a whole different story. x]I]618nI9^R? [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Ball Speed - 185 mph[/background][/size][/color] 6 Iron Trackman Data - What am I missing? Too delofted? Simmer down, all. How Far Do Pro Golfers Hit Each Club? A 2022 Guide It takes a detailed plan and it takes time, and this is why I think the improvement of AMAs isnt as impressive as it could be. I need to know few things before buying. He was also the beneficiary of a grant that afforded him the opportunity to travel and pursue his junior golf career. Driver: Cobra Amp Cell Pro (8.5 degrees) While it would be easy to quietly continue his good deeds, the time is right to establish a foundation that can partner with others to positively impact countless philanthropic organizations and communities, and deliver even more good in the world. Most of my longer clubs only just creep above the 200 yd mark. I'm not going to wear my body down trying to swing that club. Ive played four rounds since reading this, and shot 81, 83, 79, and 78. I seem to have the same speed as pro women and they are playing the same distances that I am but scoring way way lower with a game built from precision over speed. Just ask Corey Pavin, Mark Wilson, Mike Weir, Fred Funk. Yes! Stay up to date and receive free notifications of new posts by email. [quote name='jeffrey08250' timestamp='1364416031' post='6708919'] What is evident is you obviously don't play with good amateur players. Short hitter compared to the average WRXer TaylorMade Stealth+ 8 w/ PX Handcrafted Prototype EvenFlow Black 65 6.5, TaylorMade SIM ROCKET 14.5 w/ PX Handcrafted EvenFlow Black 75 6.5, TaylorMade SIM 18 Tour Issue w/ PX Handcrafted EvenFlow Black 75 6.5, TaylorMade SIM 2 Max Rescue 3-19 w/ PX RDX Smoke 90 6.5, TaylorMade SIM 2 Max Rescue 4-22 w/ PX RDX Smoke 90 6.5, Srixon ZX7 6-AW w/ Nippon Modus Tour125 Stiff 6 0 obj This course setup for the AMA is assuming a perfectly optimal drive by the golfer so in theory 395 yards would be a maximum length for the AMA based on 50% GIR. Justin credits his success on the PGA TOUR to a childhood full of direction, support, and love. The AMA has a reported handicap of 14 or 15. For example, I could average over 300 yards per round during the summer with a driver. Titleist fitting last summer at my home course. Although there is a slow trend towards improvement, many in the golf industry wonder why progress has not been faster. Items sent in without return postage will not be returned. Taylormade Spider X Chalk SS. [quote name='jeffrey08250' timestamp='1364360280' post='6704435'] BALL; Chrome Soft X. Spin Rate 2,645.8 I think some of you think too highly of yourselves & don't give tour players enough credit. Not sure how you measure it down to the exact yard on an average driving range. FULL GUIDE By Age, Handicap etc. Its important to know what grass you play, what course you play (be it links or parkland) and how you deliver the club at impact (steep or shallow). My question is my average D is +5.3, 6I is +3.5 and 8I is +2.1. [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Launch Angle - 11*[/background][/size][/color] *Normalized data was used to calculate approach shot distances. Very unfortunately most of us are too busy with other things we need to do. Thomas, who was born and raised in Goshen, KY, played collegiate golf for the Alabama Crimson Tide. If I slow it down some and shoot for 280-290, I hit more fairways. On average PGA pros hit a 3-iron a carry distance the distance from strike to point of ground impact of 217 yards. Open navigation menu. People that take hole distance & distance on approach to calculate driving distance is what's funny. Does Trackman update this data each year? I agree with you 100%. This philosophy has been a revelation to me. :-). Tee and Approach Shots! FYI I hit my drive 240-250 he often hits is way past me from the whites. Can trackman info like the dispersion plot data be projected over a course layout? The numbers posted above are cool to me because you can see Tiger hits balls on the range like he does on the course. A good drive might only yield 250 and that isnt exciting. [quote name='baseballfrk8998' timestamp='1364403832' post='6707431'] Do All Golf Balls Go the Same Distance? Thats a course representative of the average golfer? Jon Rahm - TrackMan Numbers - TrackMan Golf WebIn 2018, Justin was just the 21st player to ever reach #1 in the Official World Golf Rankings following his WGC win in Memphis. Firstly there is really no need to play an 8 iron that long, secondly why on earth would you play nothing but trap draws especially with short iron Not sure how you measure it down to the exact yard on an average driving range. Once again Vokey customise their wedges even in the grooves. My total yardage for my 7 iron is 190, my ball speed is 119 mph. How Far Should You Hit a Driver? Looking at how far pros hit their irons is a much easier task these days due to all the tracking technology that exists however it still does not make it an exact science. T 'enG~q/Om\#Q`{ HLRpC45`|NiG*"2agUTeu9d10S8xl?O`,`~ja~=j'(d~e?7UN+&iHPI=8NQQ={"K9R1d"3j$NJd[?@fUM)IxJ)Sn-bcVk7*"d9;&!0tB%=7$W&q&:L^q1|T]6k)SF Justin First of all, I would always encourage any golfer to get custom fitted for Titleist Vokey wedges because the loft/bounce/grind chart can be very confusing. Web27K views, 94 likes, 1 loves, 33 comments, 13 shares, Facebook Watch Videos from TrackMan: Congratulations to Justin Thomas, winning the CJ Cup! [/quote] By adding 10 yards to every shot hit by the AMA from 160 yards, the percentage of shots that would hit the green increases from 38.5% to 44.0% and the average distance from the target decreases from 71.8 feet to 60.6 feet. Driver: Cobra Amp Cell Pro (8.5 degrees) Shaft: Aldila RIP Phenom 3-wood: Titleist 906F4 (13.5 degrees) Shaft: Aldila NV 7-wood: Michael Hopper whats in the bag accurate as of the WM Phoenix Open. I guess what Im saying is if you dont hit the ball straight consistently and you dont make good, clean contact consistently, it would be silly to focus on things like swing speed/distance. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364416375' post='6708959'] Shafts: KBS Tour 125 S+, Wedges: TaylorMade Milled Grind 3 (50-09SB, 54-11SB, 60-08LB) 19* SLDR Resuce // Speeder 9.3s Thanks for posting. bT^GCUbIRT97U]"p:JJL)K^B"qPLCw4jw[ ))~u#-n MQ\~x/1c_kQ&mK Top 100 PGA Tour Player Analysis, What Clubs Do LPGA players use? And when it comes to how far Tiger Woods, arguably the greatest iron player of all time, hits his irons? My home course is around 6200 so I can work around not bombing it off the tee but it is perplexing to me. PGA Tour players hit their driver a total of 296.6 yards on average with a carry distance of 284.3 yards according to official 2022 Shotlink data. Short hitter compared to the average WRXer Am I as good as tour pro? This promotes a lower ball flight and is seen by tour players as being a more accurate shot than having the ball float into the air. The AMA is far from efficient with his driver. It's not the length that makes a pro. I know I hit the ball a long way though. When it comes to how far the pros hit a 3 wood and the other longer clubs in the bag including their hybrids the distance analysis gets a bit more complicated because clearly the pros are starting to use these clubs for a wider variety type of shots than they do for their driver. Bilan, I think you should rub one out before you get to first tee box. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364404259' post='6707501'] Shafts: True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue S400. Desired launch angle, spin rates change based on driver speed. Again, I would certainly encourage you to get fitted for these due to the variations on offer and especially get fitted on grass as a mat does not give any useful feedback on interaction needed for bounce and grind. If length was a determing factor for professional status then we'd have the Wedge players tour and not the Long Drivers tour. To fix that we changed to the new wedge with fresh grooves and made it a degree flatter to straighten my flight up. Finally the bunker shot, this is where I feel Vokey really stand out and help my game. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364403614' post='6707409'] My 8 iron 190yards 5iron 252 yards Pw is 150yrds And loft 56 at 120yrds Loft 110 yrds How do i control the power to less distance? The AMA has an average club speed of 93.4 mph and an average total distance of 214 yards. Howarth Golf Performance Studio | Facebook also his AoD on the stinger. The following graph shows the distribution of AMA Driver club speeds. If golfers are to continue playing the same length tees, then optimizing their driver distance is going to be key to enhancing their performance. If I slow it down some and shoot for 280-290, I hit more fairways. Or should i take control on the distance i have? WebSee how The Honda Classic Justin Thomas Trackman numbers look https://blog.trackmangolf.com/justin-thomas-trackman-numbers/ Shaft: Aldila RIP Phenom, 3-wood: Titleist 906F4 (13.5 degrees) The main part of the fitting was when I moved onto the chipping green and started to hit bunker shots - these clubs just got better and better, theyre so secure in strike and very reliable. Display as a link instead, However, it is more the fact that golfers are playing courses that are too long relative to club speed and skill level. TrackMan Distance to Apex 195.9 I appreciate that. When it comes to looking at how far the pros hit their wedges the stock yardage they hit each club is again obviously only one of the multiple yardages they can hit the most versatile clubs in any players golf bag. Add Driving Distance by Analyzing the Worlds Longest Driver! It is vital for them to know exactly how far they hit their wedges with a variety of different types of shots because feel is so important from those short distances, especially at the top level of the game, where a yard or two can make the difference between winning or losing a tournament. I still feel these are better players clubs for 15 handicappers or below as they are bladed heads which require you to deliver the club consistently and strike the centre of the face. Top 100 Player Analysis. That means the par 4s would average 395 yards. Sure, I see guys hitting 250-300 yards, but they are far from the norm. Skill Triumphs Over All! In the lower lofted wedges (46-52) at address the club sits squarer, the leading edge looks to be straighter and less rounded at the top of the toe. For 6-irons the average is 188 yards, for 7-irons it is 177 yards and 8-irons, 9-irons and pitching wedges go 164, 153 and 141 yards respectively. [quote name='GooseHook' timestamp='1364385234' post='6705065'] Of course touring pros are way better than everyone at all facets of the gamethat's why they're out making millions while a bunch of us have idiotic debates over the Internet. The data has been collected through the TrackMan Combine from over 10,000 golfers of all levels from around the world. It's good for some laughs. Scotty Squareback and Odyssey OG #7, Srixon ZX5 MKII Irons 4-PW Like New and a Titleist U505 4 Iron, OG Nike TW13 PING i59 irons Vessel Stand bag (trade). However, the vast majority of the time I spend with my students that would fall into the AMA category is spent on working out the kinks in their swing (to help them hit straighter shots more consistently) and helping them with better contact with the golf ball. Total Distance Efficiency 2.484 Thankfully also the SM9s dont seem to be ripping the cover off your ball, but looking at the Trackman numbers the backspin was high which you'd expect from the milled grooves. You can post now and register later. But i attribute most of that to playing with a best friend who was a scratch golfer and showed me theres no need to take longer than 2 hours to play 18 holes. I've always gone with clubs based off of feel and ball flight, not what the numbers say. I know I'm not a short hitter & I know there's a ton of bs on this board. I'm planning to change my irons this year after a number of years but before heading straight to a club fitter to test out all the latest and greatest models I thought it would be interesting to take What Driver is Most Used On the PGA Tour? There is nothing worse than getting the club stuck in the ground at impact. [/quote] If length was a determing factor for professional status then we'd have the Wedge players tour and not the Long Drivers tour. Justin came from 7 strokes back to start the final round at the 2022 PGA Championship which ties the largest final round comeback in PGA Championship history. I know I'm not a short hitter & I know there's a ton of bs on this board. The 56 to 62 grooves are wider and shallower for chipping and lob shots. Not sure how you measure it down to the exact yard on an average driving range. Is a soft ball for club head speed of 90 MPH with the driver better than a hard ball? [/quote] I guess if you don't play with guys that are good, it's understandable. I would recommend that you go visit a TrackMan certified coach, he/she will be able to help you with your club speed. Should my ball speed be faster based on the distance Im getting. TEST INFO TOTAL SCORE Or the public course in Lenoir, NC? 3. Their delivery will be erratic and Vokey is a bladed wedge which offers little help in the forgiveness department. That's what I think. Either way I don't care. If it's a really short par 4, I will hit an iron, hybrid, or fairway wood to play to that ideal distance range. Upload or insert images from URL. So much so that if I'm 220 out, a distance I can reach with a perfect 5 wood, ill hit to 50, pitch, putt, par and drive you insane. Yes, typically very short drivers of the ball are better iron players or wedge players. Shaft: Graphite Design Tour AD IZ 95 X Hybrid, Irons: Titleist T100 (3-9) 2 vs 3 vs 4 Hybrid Distances, How Far Should I Hit My Irons? I think you wish you hit it further. My handicap is 24, but my driving (swing) works well. Most of the guys I play/practice with are +2 to 5 handicaps. Well, they say that If you practice more and more youll get better and better. This way the material is removed from the face and not spread out which means the grooves are sharper and weight isn't dispersed. He is 180 ball speed off the driver with outstanding launch numbers. Those numbers seem about right. Not uncommon these days for elite swing speed [/quote] Someone will probably come in and explain what he should do to improve those numbers.. Callaway Paradyme Tensei 1K 70 The numbers posted above are cool to me because you can see Tiger hits balls on the range like he does on the course. I have been working around that weakness by using shorter clubs off the tee but it leaves me with much longer second shots. [/quote] [/quote] You could hear the thump and it was relentless in its consistency.
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